A Dialogue

©2025 Victor R. Claveau, MJ

Not long ago, I was introduced, as a Catholic evangelist, to a man and his wife. The husband immediately and vehemently began to attack the Catholic Church. This surprise attack had been unwarranted and I must admit it took a lot of self-control for me not to give back in kind. Instead, I listen to what he had to say and then began a point-by-point refutation of his misunderstandings.

Needless to say, his knowledge of Catholicism and Church history was clouded by his hatred of the Church. I sensed that there had to be some underlying reason for his unreasoned violent assault.

When I asked if he practice any religion, he stated that he was a Messianic Jew. He then asked, how I could justify the Catholic Church’s persecution of the Jews in the Middle Ages. I replied, “There was and is no justification for anti-Semitism at any age, but you should not judge the Church by the actions of certain of her members. An example of this is the recent pedophile scandal. The Church abhors and has always vigorously condemned such behavior. The fact that a small minority of priests molested children does not mean that all priests are child molesters. If we judge any church by the conduct of her members, then no church would be found worthy.”

We must judge a church by its teachings. As for Christianity, the judgment criteria should be whether or not those teachings can be traced to Jesus and His Apostles.

We then began to discuss a myriad of other religious issues. He mis-quoted the Catechism of the Catholic Church again and again. It seemed to me that he was reading into the Catechism what he wanted to believe. Fortunately, I am familiar enough with the teachings of the Church to know whether or not his understanding was correct. It is not uncommon for anti-Catholics to quote the Catechism and then try to tear down their misunderstanding. I explained that in order to understand the Catechism correctly, it is most often necessary to refer to the explanatory footnotes on the bottom of each page. It is not enough to know what the Church teaches, but equally important are the foundations for these beliefs in both the Bible and Sacred Tradition.

This conversation lasted over two hours and, in the end, we parted as friends. We agreed that we would continue our dialogue by E-mail.

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